Obsecro, inquit, Torquate, haec dicit Epicurus? Quantum Aristoxeni ingenium consumptum videmus in musicis? Tamen a proposito, inquam, aberramus. Itaque primos congressus copulationesque et consuetudinum instituendarum voluntates fieri propter voluptatem;

Ad eas enim res ab Epicuro praecepta dantur. Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi; Nam neque virtute retinetur ille in vita, nec iis, qui sine virtute sunt, mors est oppetenda. Non igitur potestis voluptate omnia dirigentes aut tueri aut retinere virtutem. Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Quae hic rei publicae vulnera inponebat, eadem ille sanabat. Nondum autem explanatum satis, erat, quid maxime natura vellet. Gloriosa ostentatio in constituendo summo bono. Sin laboramus, quis est, qui alienae modum statuat industriae?

Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla expectata nec quaesita voluptate. Verba tu fingas et ea dicas, quae non sentias? In qua si nihil est praeter rationem, sit in una virtute finis bonorum; Universa enim illorum ratione cum tota vestra confligendum puto. Equidem, sed audistine modo de Carneade? Bonum patria: miserum exilium. Zenonis est, inquam, hoc Stoici. Sed venio ad inconstantiae crimen, ne saepius dicas me aberrare; Frater et T. Nos quidem Virtutes sic natae sumus, ut tibi serviremus, aliud negotii nihil habemus. At eum nihili facit;

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Illa argumenta propria videamus, cur omnia sint paria peccata. At ego quem huic anteponam non audeo dicere; Duo Reges: constructio interrete.

Omnes enim iucundum motum, quo sensus hilaretur. Tu autem negas fortem esse quemquam posse, qui dolorem malum putet. Videamus igitur sententias eorum, tum ad verba redeamus. Non risu potius quam oratione eiciendum? Scrupulum, inquam, abeunti; Quamquam te quidem video minime esse deterritum. Quod si ita sit, cur opera philosophiae sit danda nescio. Maximas vero virtutes iacere omnis

necesse est voluptate dominante.

Sine ea igitur iucunde negat posse se vivere? Claudii libidini, qui tum erat summo ne imperio, dederetur.

Itaque nostrum est-quod nostrum dico, artis est-ad ea principia, quae accepimus. Itaque vides, quo modo loquantur, nova verba fingunt, deserunt usitata. Nam, ut paulo ante docui, augendae voluptatis finis est doloris omnis amotio. An vero, inquit, quisquam potest probare, quod perceptfum, quod. Nec vero alia sunt quaerenda contra Carneadeam illam sententiam. Sin tantum modo ad indicia veteris memoriae cognoscenda, curiosorum.

Aliter homines, aliter philosophos loqui putas oportere? Praetereo multos, in bis doctum hominem et suavem, Hieronymum, quem iam cur Peripateticum appellem nescio. Iam doloris medicamenta illa Epicurea tamquam de narthecio proment: Si gravis, brevis; Invidiosum nomen est, infame, suspectum.

Haec para/doca illi, nos admirabilia dicamus. Bona autem corporis huic sunt, quod posterius posui, similiora. Illis videtur, qui illud non dubitant bonum dicere -; Et hi quidem ita non sola virtute finem bonorum contineri putant, ut rebus tamen omnibus virtutem anteponant; Est enim effectrix multarum et magnarum voluptatum. Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla expectata nec quaesita voluptate. Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Qualem igitur hominem natura inchoavit? Omnia contraria, quos etiam insanos esse vultis.

Quam si explicavisset, non tam haesitaret. Eadem nunc mea adversum te oratio est. Quamquam tu hanc copiosiorem etiam soles dicere. Quis enim confidit semper sibi illud stabile et firmum permansurum, quod fragile et caducum sit? Tamen aberramus a proposito, et, ne longius, prorsus, inquam, Piso, si ista mala sunt, placet. Bork Sed ad haec, nisi molestum est, habeo quae velim. Sed quid attinet de rebus tam apertis plura requirere?

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